Continuing on with Mitch Gross' interview I asked him to discuss the academic conviction that the digital realm has no materiality - which he proceded to profoundly disagree with. (click and play the first video selection below).

At that point the camera gave up its materiality and promptly turned off. We restarted with Mitch concluding his point then I asked him to add any other thoughts. Mitch then described a way forward with imaging equipment. (click the second video selection).